Benjamin J. Grotts - RIP

CIDAA Forum: Deaths (Public): Benjamin J. Grotts - RIP
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Japuntich (Unregistered Guest) on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 07:41 am:  Edit

Like many of the others who posted here, I felt that I had a close friendship with Ben. I worked with him at Ft. Sill about 1975. I remember him coming over for supper when I was back in Lawton for bootstrap about 1979. A nicer guy you'll never meet.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cidaa1 (Cidaa1) on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 08:44 am:  Edit

Bill, that's nice of you but I already have hard copy of the entries going to Ali in today's snail mail.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill_charest (Bill_charest) on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 08:42 pm:  Edit

By Bill Charest. I called Ali Grotts a few minutes ago and we talked for about 15 minutes. Ali took wonderful care of Ben through the years. She was very thankful of all those who posted on this website to say nice things about Ben. I told her I would copy and print out the comments and send them to her regular mail as her computer can't receive.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rvyblood on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 03:31 pm:  Edit

Ben and I got to know each other when he arrived at Ft Sill Field Office, circa 1975, after he departed the RVN. We were friends and duty partners. Ben took me home with him for a weekend to meet his family (mom, dad, sister). He was a character of the sort you just had to love. He was a generous soul and gave a lot of himself to those around him. Gonna miss you, Ben.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill_charest on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 12:01 pm:  Edit

I am very saddened to hear of Ben Grotts' passing. He and I broke into CID at Fort Bragg, NC together in the early 60s. Fort Bragg was an excellent place to break in because of the diversified crime prevalent on such a large military installation. The PMIs (non-accredited Provost Marshal Investigators)were paired up with an accredited CID investigator and learned by doing.

Ben was a tireless investigator who always put 110 percent into his work. This attribute carried over with him after he became accredited.

Ben liked river fishing and he lived in a mobil home right next to Little River just south of Fort Bragg. He and I used to while the time away by fishing in the river, catching eels and catfish. Ben would tell his stories and I would laugh.

I later worked again with Ben when we were assigned to the Command HQs, both in the Investigations Directorate and in PSD, over a period of a couple of years.

The next time I saw Ben was in Saigon, RVN, when we met on the rooftop for cool ones in 1973. Things were already beginning to get in a state of flux with the imminent pullout of troops and Ben was assigned up country running leads down in Saigon. This was the last time I saw Ben, though we had been in contact via phone up until this Spring.

When we were breaking in at Fort Bragg, Ben was working an important pot case (back when pot was unusual in the military and high command interest was present) with such vigor, it finally caught up with him. He had worked around the clock as the second duty investigator, then escorted the pot to the Fort Gordon lab, stayed around until a report was prepared, and returned to the Ft Bragg CID office where he passed out on his typewriter while writing up his reading file (Agent's Activity Summary). We took him to Womack Army Hospital where he was diagnosed with exhaustion. Ben got a couple of days off for that one. This is just one example of how Ben worked.

As alluded to already, God broke the mold when he made Ben, and I say that as a compliment to his good attitude, sense of humor, and the aggressive way he pursued every case he was ever assigned.

Rest in peace my good friend. You're in a better place now.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Admin on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 10:04 pm:  Edit

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By Mickey on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 10:35 am:
CW3 (Retired) "B J" Grotts, age 67, died peacefully and with dignity on December 6, 2006 in Grand Blanc, MI after losing his battle with cancer. He was buried in Great Lakes National Cemetery, Grand Blanc, MI with full military honors. SA Grotts retired from USACIDC on May 27, 1977. During his military career he served four years in the Air Force. His Army service included Vietnam from 1970-71. Ali Grotts, his wife, asks that those who knew him to call her if they wish, at (810)875-9940. Condolences to the address on page 58 of your Gold Books.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Admin on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 10:05 pm:  Edit

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By Peter L. Comras on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 01:58 pm:
Ben, aka "BJ," was a character to say the least. This is not to be pejorative, but rather the highest of compliments.

I first met BJ in RVN in early 70s; then served with him at CID HQ; went on TDY with him to Thailand (special Task Force) and we met again when BJ was assigned to Vietnam in 1974 (yes, after the "war"). BJ should also be remembered as one of the last two CID Agents out of Vietnam in April,1975 (the late Josh Billings was the other agent).

Rest in Peace BJ--you certainly earned it.

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By Larry Drayton on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 03:06 pm:
I met Ben when I was first assigned to PSD at CID Hq in late 1972 (Tempo B in SE Wash DC back then.) We did a few PSD trips together. Later, when we were all going through separations and/or divorces, Ben, Jack Bennett and I briefly shared an apartment. God broke the mold after he made Ben. A tireless investigator who would not stop until the job was done. Then he (we) would all drink outselves silly, and be back to work at Oh-dark-thirty the next morning. I was fortunate to meet Ben Grotts again years after his medical retirement at one of the CIDAA association meetings. We sat up all night recalling our old agency/command experiences. RIP my dear friend!

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By Dick Stoyko on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 03:06 pm:
I share the comments of Peter Comras. I also met Ben in RVN in 1974, after the US pullout of troops. He was a real character and I mean that in a positive way. Rest with God BJ.


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